Exciting news for all Chupacabra fans!
Michael Hebler has more of his Chupacabra Series for us.
Set in the old west and brimming with atmosphere and horror, I can’t wait to tell you all about it in my review. Michael also has been a great sport and answered some questions for me. Please enjoy our interview and my review.
Don’t forget to get your free copy of Book One, Night of the Chupacabra HERE. Thanks Michael! And keep reading to enter the amazing giveaway!
SECOND CHUPACABRA NOVEL IS A ‘CURSE’
Press Release
Newport Beach, CA
In concordance with the release of book two in the Chupacabra Series, “Curse of the Chupacabra,” by fiction writer Michael Hebler, the series’ first novel “Night of the Chupacabra,” will be made available free for e-book download on Kindle Readers and devices supporting Kindle Apps through Amazon.com from September 10 to September 12, 2013 only.
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Author: Michael Hebler
Style: Series
Theme: Dark Thriller / Horror / Western
Length: 68,000 words
Format: .mobi (Kindle)
****E-Book Retail: FREE (September 10 – 12, 2013) / $2.99 (September 13, 2013)****
Night of the Chupacabra Synopsis:
There is a creature that lurks in the vast open deserts of the west. It can only survive on blood and, although it prefers to prey on the weak and young, it will slaughter anyone or anything, once provoked. It is unnatural, deceptive, and difficult to kill. Word about the existence of this elusive beast has not spread since anyone who has crossed paths with it did not live long enough to tell of their account.
In the Chupacabra Series, a vampire-like, cryptozoological creature (which literally translates to “goat-sucker”) takes a supporting role to a cast of memorable characters who struggle to survive while finding their place in developing America. Currently slated for six books, the Chupacabra Series echoes strong family themes and the sacrifices required for that nature of love; and while some characters do survive long enough to make it through multiple novels, each volume will host a different protagonist to lead the reader through its continuing journey.
Once the free days for the e-book of “Night of the Chupacabra” are over on September 12, and beginning September 13, the digital edition will continue to show support for its successor “Curse of the Chupacabra” by dropping its price from $4.99 to $2.99. ”
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Curse of the Chupacabra” will be available in both print and e-book formats beginning September 10, 2013, and is now available for print Pre-Order on the author’s official webpage, www.michaelhebler.com, where more on the Chupacabra Series also can be found, as well as additional information on Hebler’s writings.
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So Michael, let’s get to the interview!
1) I like that this book makes me feel like I’ve stepped back into time. Your writing is subtle, so I can’t put my finger on how you do it! I just feel the old west while reading:)
Thank you. That’s such a wonderful compliment! I’m not a doddler. I like to keep things always moving and always fresh. The subtleness probably stems from years and years of writing screenplays, which teaches a writer that less is more. But we’ll see if you think the same after reading “Legend,” which has clocked in at 82,000 words, while “Curse” is 70,000. And as for writing western, I can definitely pinpoint my inspiration to the movie “Unforgiven.” It is one of my favorite films and treated the western like an authentic time period and not something you slap marinara on top of. The western-style has definitely become second nature to me when it comes to the chupacabra. I’m a little nervous about writing Book 5, “Return of the Chupacabra” because I feel it’ll be a challenge to remove the “western” since the series does not stay within the Old West. However, books 5 & 6 will be good transition novels for what stories I dream up beyond the Chupacabra Series. I’m not sure I’ll be revisiting the Old West soon after the fourth chupacabra book, but you never know.
2) What you can tell us about future books in the series?
What’s that? You want me to talk about the overall Chupacabra Series? Oh, I couldn’t do… it all started when I finished the full story of “Night”—then just called ‘el Chupacabra.’ I had done tons of research and created such an elaborate world that it just felt wrong to leave it all behind so soon; besides, I had grown to love these characters so much (the ones who survived, at least) that I transitioned into an overbearing parental figure who couldn’t let go. I know some of you who are reading this can relate… right? I had made the decision to do a trilogy, and I wanted my second book, “Curse,” to be my Empire Strikes Back, and then promised myself to keep the Ewoks out of book three, “Legend.” So, “Legend” will round out the trilogy, but just as in book’s one and two, the main protagonist will be different. In fact, let me just state that each book in the series will have a new protagonist.
Going back to what I had originally stated about the time and detail it took to create this world and the mythology, I discovered I definitely had enough for a prequel book, which will be book four, “Dawn of the Chupacabra,” and is the book I am currently half through the first draft. “Dawn” will be the most horrific book of the series (a hard R-rating) and I’ll give you a hint… the chupacabra doesn’t even show until over half-way through the story. “Dawn” will also tie the short story I had written in 2011, “Hunt for the Chupacabra” to book one.
And that’s where the series will end its time in the 1800’s. Leap forward about 105 years later to 1991 for book five, “Return of the Chupacabra,” the year when chupacabra sightings were first reported. This is when the series will fall into place with the current chupacabra mythos. With books one – four, I had the world at my feet to create a fictional origin story, but in all actuality, I purposely did not match it to the folklore known today, which I have received some criticism for. But I never thought that mattered because it was why I started the series in the Old West; to allow more artistic license. So, with book five, it will be a whole new paradigm; however the main theme will not change. The Chupacabra Series has always been about love; not the romantic kind, but the family kind, which is an important part of Latin culture (mi familia). That is why family love was chosen to be the main theme for this Latin folklore horror series because they are essentially related. And as for the true chupacabra diehard fans out there, “Return” will be the book that will feel more like home. Except for one or two questions that can only be answered by having read the previous volumes, it will basically be a standalone book.
Now originally, the series was supposed to end at five, but after outlining the story, I discovered that there was always meant to be a sixth, I just had yet to realize it. “Blood of the Chupacabra” will be essential because it will bring the standalone story that is book 5 together with the first four books, to create a full circle in the series.
There you have it, and I think I did it without revealing any important plotlines or twists. Whew!
3) Many authors say that reading a lot of books is important if you are serious about writing. Is that true for you, and if so, are there any authors who have influenced you?
While I agree with your statement and believe writers should read, I can’t say I’ve read tons of books. My main problem is that I’m a SLOW reader, so reading a lot of books would take away all my writing time. But don’t misunderstand, I have read my fair share and usually always have a book I’m reading. In fact, right now, I’m about a quarter of the way through J.K. Rowling’s “The Casual Vacancy.” I did start reading at an early age. One day I closed the back cover of Dr. Seuss then opened the front cover of Stephen King. My mom had a bookshelf filled with his books. In fact, there was one particular book cover that influenced the cover of “Curse of the Chupacabra” which used to freak-me-the-hell-out as a pre-teen, yet I found it so intriguing, I couldn’t stop staring at it. It was the original hardcover of Cujo. For some reason, the dog’s snout was so prominent within the mist, I never saw the rest of Cujo’s head that was thinly veiled in the background. All my eyes would see was this dripping snout, which looked like a scarier version of the trash monster’s eye in the original Star Wars movie (and probably why I liked the cover so much). That faintness of Cujo was what inspired the chupacabra’s face in the train tunnel for “Curse of the Chupacabra.” Childhood comes full-circle, yet again. Now that I’m currently writing my fourth novel, I’m definitely starting to become aware of my subconscious influences more and more. I think they would be: King, Rowling, Crichton, and Dickens. King for his content, which is borderline horror but more about the mystery and characters; Rowling for her style of writing, its flow and structure; Crichton for his attention to detail; and Dickens for his remarkable sense of plot and story.
4) Was it easier to write and publish Curse of the Chupacabra as it’s the second book in the series?
Oh yes! I definitely learned a lot during, and after, “Night of the Chupacabra.” Of course, with the first book, it was basically a learning process. The time spent from the first written word of “Curse” to handing my baby over to the printers, like a parent sending their child to their first day of school, was chopped in half. In fact, I’m already finding “Legend” an easier process because of having learned from two books, and its 12,000 words longer! I’m sure they’ll keep getting easier and easier the more I write. Being able to write and publish a book in my sleep… that’s my goal!
5) Do you have any tips you’d like to share with other writers?
Hmm. Know your audience, that’s definitely one I’d like to share and one I’ve struggled with myself. However, admittedly, I only did it to myself because I wanted to write a series that had a little bit of everything for everyone. Also, if you’re lucky enough to have a folder (internal or external) of ideas that you are excited to write, begin with the one that is the most commercial. Do your research and discover what the biggest genre is, which is probably YA at the moment, and start there. You have a better chance of making a name for yourself and that will open doors which will allow you to pull out the more genre specific ideas from that folder. Your follower base will have already been established. I don’t think “The Casual Vacancy” would have done as well if Rowling hadn’t written “Harry Potter” first.
6) How do you spend your free time?
LOL! What free time!? Seriously, I think I’m always working on something. It’s really difficult for me to sit still and not be productive in some way. In addition to writing, I also have a career as a film publicist. I just got back from a junket in New York (by the way, long plane trips are an author’s best friend) and am gearing up to promote a film at the Toronto Film Festival. When I’m not writing or publicizing, I do volunteer as a driver for Meals on Wheels in my local area, as well as participate in the C/S/N/R (capture/spay/neuter/release) program; animals are my weakness. And if I’m not doing any of that, I’ll write up a post for my blog, watch TV or a movie, play a video game, or read. And that last bit might sound like fun time, but I’m usually on the prowl for my next inspiration.
Five Fun Shorts!
1) Morning person or snooze button? – Morning person. There is nothing like the stillness and tranquility of the world before it awakes.
2) Favorite book to movie? – The Color Purple. The movie’s been my favorite since 1985, and of course, I had to read the book.
3) For the good guy or the bad guy? – Bad guy. Even though they’re bad, they’re still the underdog.
4) Favorite cartoon? – The original Scooby-Doo’s from the ‘70s—the ones that had a musical number chase interlude.
5) Are you superstitious? – I have to say “no”; however, I do occasionally find myself knocking on wood and avoiding cracks on the ground.
Well that was a lot of fun! Thanks so much Michael. Lots to think about and thrilled to know there will be many more Chupacabra books!
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Author: Michael Hebler
Style: Series
Theme: Dark Thriller / Horror / Western
Length: 308 pages (print) / 70,000 words
Binding: Perfect bound & digital (.mobi, .epub, .pdf )
Retail: $16.95 (print) / $4.99 (e-book)
Buy Links
Amazon / B&N / Goodreads / Shelfari
Curse of the Chupacabra Synopsis
They never thought their luck would be their curse. In the months following the onslaught, the extraordinary survivors continue to know no peace, as they are haunted by signs that the relentless creature remains on their trail. However, this fight will be better matched, now that they’ve discovered an advantage that will help protect them from the monster’s bloodthirsty lust. But once faced with the decision to kill the beast, the choice will not come lightly since it is still unclear which loved one the chupacabra possesses.
My Review
You can run but you cannot hide!
Not many survived the last faceoff with the Chupacabra.
Suzanne was one of the lucky few.
Now she’s running, with a young girl in tow, trying to stay as far ahead of the beast as she can. Suzanne should’ve known Jessie wouldn’t stay with the older couple that took her in. She’s resourceful and cunning and wants to be with Suzanne.
But Suzanne, once a prostitute, can barely take care of herself and thinks Jessie would be better off with someone else.
The decision is taken out of their hands when the chupacabra finds Jessie and she barely escapes it bloody clutches.
Again, they run and there’s nowhere to hide.
The chupacabra is back!
Sadly, most of the characters from Night of the Chupacabra, the first book, aren’t. They didn’t survive.
Suzanne did and I’m glad. She may have had to resort to the oldest profession in order to get by, there weren’t many opportunities for women in the old west, but she’s kind of heart, astute, and charmingly vulnerable.
Another survivor is Jessie. She’s young and bold, a real scrapper too. She’s been trying to manipulate Suzanne into letting her stay, and she does something really crazy that puts Suzanne in a vulnerable situation.
It turns out good though, as Suzanne’s rescuer is a tall drink of water named James. He’s an actor traveling with a theatre group and he saved her from a brutal assault by a scoundrel.
James is quite the gentlemen and he’s charmed by Suzannes beauty. Wanting to keep her near, he invites the two ladies to travel with the troupe.
What they don’t know is, they are about to have an uninvited guest. A really angry one.
Something I’ve always loved is character driven novels. I’m a people person and have to have someone to care about, someone to laugh with, and someone to loathe.
I have all of those in Curse of the Chupacabra and that’s not including the chupacabra.
He is back and scarier than ever. Boy is he ever.
The author has a different take on the legend of the chupacabra which makes for confusing feelings towards it. It adds to the suspense, for sure.
Lots of laughs, some tender moments, and scares galore. I had so much fun continuing with this series.
5 Stars
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Michael Hebler recently became an author alongside building a successful career in feature film publicity, but his passion to create stories with suspense, laughter, and heart is not his only love. Hebler also volunteers his time weekly for charities in his local area including Meals on Wheels, and abets for animal rights by aiding in the CSNR (capture/spay/neuter/release) program.
To date, Hebler’s publications include, “
Night of the Chupacabra,” (Chupacabra Series #1), and his first publication, “The Night After Christmas,” a holiday picture book for believers of any age. Hebler also authored the micro story, “Hunt for the Chupacabra,” preceding the events of book one.
Hebler can also be found rambling on his blog “My Little Obsessions.”
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CONTACT DETAILS
Name: Michael Hebler
Email: info@michaelhebler.com
Website: www.michaelhebler.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mhebler
Facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/The-Chupacabra-Novel-Series/189413924437649?fref=ts
Blog: http://michaelsobsessions.blogspot.com
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Now for the amazing giveaway!
1 Top Winner) signed copies of print versions of both Night of the Chupacabra & Curse of the Chupacabra (US Only)
1 Second Winner) signed copy of Curse of the Chupacabra (US Only)
1 Third Winner) ebook copies of both Night of the Chupacabra & Curse of the Chupacabra(International)
3 Runner-ups) ebook copy of Curse of the Chupacabra(International)
To enter, please leave your email address, specify if entering for US or International Giveaway or both, and answer this question:
“Have you ever seen something you couldn’t explain?”
Giveaway ends September 30th.
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen I couldn’t explain, but I’m still waiting for some supernatural event to happen 🙂 This book sounds really good, thanks for the great giveaway! sdoyle@sucocoopwb.com
Michael has a great giveaway! And this series will continue!
I’ve seen a couple of strange things. One being a light in the sky that didn’t move for hours! And no, it wasn’t a star or planet. LOL
Very cool book and the giveaway too… love it! I thought I saw a light in the sky… but it was a water tower and I was a little ‘gone with the wind’ (nod, nod, wink, wink:) Lots of love, Emily
Bad Emily! I hope it was something yummy like a spicy bloody mary or frozen margarita!
It was Mad Dog 20/20… I was a 18 year old college student coming home to the dorm from a party…. NOW you know why I’m going to school at 50… LOL!!!
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Yes, I have seen things I can’t explain.And I really love Michael Hebler’s folklore-based chupacabra. In my Vampire Syndrome universe, they are simply vampiric dogs, ie “junkyard chupacabras” 😉
Now, I have heard vampiric dogs, and have even used the term before myself, but I am abandoning that comparison for “junkyard chupacabra”. Brilliant!
Vampiric dogs, like that!
Cool interview, Laura, & cool books, Michael!
Thank you for the free copy (bk. 1) of your Chupacabra series for my Kindle Fire and a chance to win the second book! Again…another ‘COOL’!
Okay…I have seen & heard several ‘weirdities’ but could attribute them to some scientific explanation…HOWEVER…I do have one incident that happened a few years ago that I cannot explain AT ALL when my mom was living with me and was there as a witness…in fact, she was involved in the ‘incident’. Unfortunately, she has since passed on….so I alone am left to tell the tale. For some reason, it either made mom mad or uncomfortable to talk about it so she got mad when I tried to tell hubby about it when he came home from work & mom refused to discuss it…ever. Anyway…here goes & I’ll try to keep it short. Trust me, I don’t tell too many people about this so they don’t think I’m some nut-job.
I work full time as a librarian. Mom, having moved back to KS from NM, was living with us at the time. I would come home for lunch which mom always seemed to enjoy fixing for us to eat together and chat for an hour before I had to return to work. One sunny afternoon a few years ago, we were sitting at the kitchen table talking when I caught a movement out of the corner of my eye in the middle of the kitchen. When I looked full at it I saw a dense white misty vapor about the height of our heads as we were at the kitchen table. It began to move towards us & I was so surprised to see this in my house I didn’t know what to do/say so just watched for the time it took to get to my mother & fully encompass her head & upper half of her body as she was talking away. My mom had the most beautiful snow white hair that was always fixed to perfection & with the drapes open this mist/vapor made her hair glow like she were an angelic being. It really was beautiful…weird, but beautiful. As she kept talking away, I could see the vapor curling up from her mouth where I guess her breath must have been causing it to move. At the time this seemed to go on forever and I finally snapped out of my staring (probably with my mouth hanging open!) long enough to ask her if she saw what I was seeing! She did…however, she had the most unusual remark (to say the least!) to my question…”How do I know you didn’t do it!” she snapped. Man, that was NOT the response I was expecting!!! It wasn’t long after her remark that the vapor did a stage right and disappeared what looked like through the drapes and out the glass door. Honestly, this did not scare me…it perplexed me to no end! I came back to work feeling really freaked & told some staff about it…seeing the ‘Uhhhh, yeah’ look on their faces. I even called the doctor’s office & explained what happened asking if taking tons of vitamins (like my mom did) could cause some kind of ‘smoke stuff’ to come out of her mouth…although it wouldn’t explain the vapor moving to mom from the middle of the kitchen. All they said (with that “Oh boy, here’s another weird one!”) voice was, “If it happens again, you might bring her in for a visit”. They were probably really thinking I needed the visit and not with a GP either!
Now…that is my very strange unexplained story and to this day I haven’t an answer to what it was nor has it happened again. I did tease mom as I walked in the door from work that evening (with my husband in the room to hear)…”Well, mom, has your head been spinning around while I was gone?” Of course, she gave me ‘that look’ without saying a word & besides, I knew “The Exorcist” reference wouldn’t have registered at all with her…:> I don’t think my husband believed me & of course, mom wasn’t talking about it. Who knows, maybe it was my dad who passed on way a few years before stopping in to give her a hug…they loved each other so much. Like I said…who knows? I sure don’t! However, I do swear on a stack of Bibles or the Koran or anything else sacred & hold that all that I’ve just said is the truth.
I have another unexplained & creepy thing I’ve seen but can’t explain but think it may just be attributed to weird kitty behavior, however, I’ve probably used up my space here so I’ll leave it for another time…:> Another true, and odd, thing I’ve witnessed in my house.
Cheers & thanks for reading this far,
–Cecilia
Hi Cecilia, that is very interesting and I’m not inclined to disbelief you; your story reminds me of one of my own. When I was about five-years-old, I was sleeping on our sofa in the den instead of my own bed. I had awakened in the middle of the night and glanced across the room to see a female-ish ghostly figure. I remember it/her being very vapor-y like you had described. Now, it was possible that this was the time I had contracted chicken-pox, which may or may not explain why my parents didn’t want me sleeping in my own bed. But I distinctly remember the image appearing very… mature? in a 5-year-olds eyes. It wasn’t the image of a “ghost” that someone of my age would have imagined… it didn’t look like the type of spirit running away from Scooby Doo and his gang with a white sheet over his head. I’ve always chalked that experience up to delirium from the pox, sleeping in a room that I normally didn’t sleep in, and possibly a deceptive glare from the street lamp outside the window. Who knows… maybe I was even still asleep? I haven’t had another paranormal experience since, but it definitely felt real enough to keep with me all these years.
Oh! And I hope you enjoy the book. 🙂
Now you’ve both caught my attention. I had an experience, or my ex-husband and I did. Married at the time and sound asleep, I was woken up when our bed shook violently. Opening my eyes I saw my jusband pressed up against the head board. He told me something threw him there and when we looked at his body, there was a red mark in the shape of a hand on his back. Too big for me to have done it and he couldn’t reach back there. I was so scared, I slept with the light on for several days.
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I have actually seen something that many cannot explain. Where I live, there’s this place at the point of a mountain where you can look down and see unexplainable lights moving across the mountain. One minute they will be still, then they zoom across the mountain really fast. It usually happens during a half moon/full moon cycle. Scientists have come and gone to study this strange event but it baffles them too.
That sounds eerie and magical. Like a celestial light show.
Interesting inexplicable incidents, Brandy & Michael! It’s awesome that scientists come to study the lights, Brandy…lends it all the more credence.
Michael, your story does sound similar to mine except for the mum talking and displacing the mist/vapor stuff…now that was really weird!
Good luck, everyone, in Laura’s contest & we all thank you, Michael, for sharing the 1st book in your series with us!
Nah. Nothing surprising. Awesome giveaway. Thanks.
Nothing? Even with all of the places you’ve been? Huh!
I’ve seen things before and been able to provide NO explanation.
Entering US please. Great giveaway!
The truth is out there!
It most definitely is! I’ve seen images of my grandfather (who died before I was born) hovering over my son when he was younger, my nieces have both said that they have seen and played with my father (who passed away before the youngest was born), among other unexplained things.
Can’t say I’ve never seen something I could not explain. I had some supernatural dreams though that have taken my breath away. Thanks for the giveaway and I enjoyed your interview. ( I am entering for both)
Some believe our dreams are messages. Who knows!
Okay you guys. Am I tripping out or is it you? LOL
Nah, you’re tripping! LOL
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Lagomorphflix@gmail.com (US) I’ve seen strange things that I can’t easily explain, when I was a kid my friend and I saw something moving through a duck pond near our house. We never found out what it was, but after that we never saw anymore ducks there.
Poor ducks or maybe wise ducks! I’ve seen some weird things too. It makes me wonder if I’m ignoring them too easily.
lagomorphflix@gmail.com (US). I’ve seen stuff that I can’t readily explain. When I was a kid, my friend and I saw something moving under the water of a nearby duck pond. We never found out what it was, but I’ve never seen a fish move like that. We also never saw any ducks there again.
Yes, I’ve seen something I couldn’t explain. About 5 years ago, I was on my way to work. I had to be there at 3am, so of course it’s still dark outside. Out of nowhere, I see all these lights flashing in a circular pattern out in a field as I pass. It freaked me the hell out. I wanted to report it, but thought against it.
I’m entering for BOTH giveaways and my email address is thomaslakeisha27(at)yahoo(dot)com
I saw something in the sky one night that I couldn’t explain. I didn’t report it either. Too worried they would think I was loony!
My family has visited the paulding light near watermeet, MI several times http://www.pauldinglight.com we can’t explain it, and we even video taped it years ago the first or second time we visited it. We could see several distinct lights, but we haven’t decided what we think causes them. I have relatives that live less than an hour from there so we go there when we’re bored because half the fun is all the ‘tin foil hat’ types you might right into.
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Tin foil hat types. I like that! Makes me think of Signs. Weird that no one knows what causes the lights.
I just watched the video. That is some weird happenings there.
It seems like it could be explained if you approached the lights, but don’t think I would have the courage. Seen too many movies!
I have seen people make last minute decision for no reason at all that ultimately spared them some loss later (less than four hours.) I would be entering for the International Giveaway.
That’s a good one! It makes you wonder if they have foresight or something else guided them.
I believe in guardian angels and have had a couple of things happen when I’ve asked for help that I cannot explain but cannot deny they happened. Rather personal so, I won’t go into details. I just do believe in Angels without a doubt.
Oops, thinking so much, I forgot to add my email: sunmtnhy@gmail.com and U.S. entry
I’ve not had an experience with a guardian angel but others I know have and I do feel like someone is watching over me.
Yes, 🙂
Nothing I can remember, oh wait, hmm, my ex boyfriend, oh and my ex-husband, no one can explain him… lol… sorry couldn’t pass up being ornery….. thanks for the giveaway
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LOL! That’s so funny and so true for me too! Good one.
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There are some mysteries in our universe which will NEVER be answered.
Ha! That’s for sure.
Living in the Great Lakes region, there are many unexplained things that I have seen or heard of. Ships vanish without a trace. Rain that falls upward. Those are just a few of them.
I was born in Michigan and I saw water flowing uphill! I’ve always wondered what was in those icy lakes. I love swimming in cold water, here on the gulf coast it’s like bath water, but it’s always in the back of my mind, “There be monsters!”
Yes I once saw something I couldn’t explain. Along the lines of a UFO. That’s all I’m saying on the subject. Lol
That happened in Michigan. But I live in Chicago IL now and never had that experience again.
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